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[issue:204] Re: TLContrib packages into MacPorts?
by Mojca Miklavec 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi, I took a look. First of all, it is quite annoying that you are distributing files of super tiny size in different packages. Isn't there a way to package both archives together? (There is a workaround to copy from one folder to another, but it's a bit annoying.) Here's the log from my attempt: cjk-gs-integrate [WARNING]: The program 'otfinfo' not found in PATH. cjk-gs-integrate [WARNING]: Sorry, we can't be safe enough to distinguish cjk-gs-integrate [WARNING]: uppercase / lowercase file names. cjk-gs-integrate: reading font database ... cjk-gs-integrate [WARNING]: Cannot find cjkgs-morisawa-extra.dat, skipping! cjk-gs-integrate: checking for files ... cjk-gs-integrate: searching for Ghostscript resource cjk-gs-integrate: output is going to /opt/local/share/ghostscript/9.23/Resource cjk-gs-integrate: generating links and snippets for CID fonts ... cjk-gs-integrate: generating links, snippets and cidfmap.local for non-CID fonts ... cannot open /opt/local/share/ghostscript/9.23/Resource/Font/AppleGothic-Adobe-Korea1-0 for writing: Permission denied at cjk-gs-integrate.pl line 911. I found otfinfo in lcdf-typetools. I can add an additional dependency on that one. I have no idea why it is complaining about cjkgs-morisawa-extra.dat But most important, it would be super helpful if something like DESTDIR parameter / env. variable would be supported, so that the generated files would go to $(DESTDIR) /opt/local/share/ghostscript/9.23/Resource/Font/ instead of directly to /opt/local/share/ghostscript/9.23/Resource/Font/. I don't want to hardcode the link to 9.23 ghoscript either since that is doomed to fail, sooner or later. Mojca On 5 July 2018 at 11:41, Hironobu Yamashita <h.y.acetaminophen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your comments. > > > 2018-07-05 18:02 GMT+09:00 Mojca Miklavec <mojca(a)macports.org>: >> Hi, >> >> A while ago we had some ptex-related stuff in MacPorts which was >> completely unmaintained for years and we removed it after a while > > No problem I think, almost all of them are now included (and improved) > inside TeX Live ;-) > I think standalone port of "makejvf" can also be removed. > >> (there's still a package ptex-sfmacros, whatever that one does). > >> In order to get a package for MacPorts, either someone needs to >> prepare a package and make a pull request, or someone needs to push >> one of existing macports contributors. It might be easy enough to >> create a package for one of us, I only need some URL with a tarball >> that will ideally not change with time. (In principle git could also >> work.) What would that URL be? > > They are available at > https://github.com/texjporg/jfontmaps/releases/tag/20180328.0 > https://github.com/texjporg/cjk-gs-support/releases/tag/20180306.0 > >> Is there any reason why these packages are not also distributed with >> upstream TeX Live or at least with MacTeX? This is not an either-or >> question, it could be distributed via both different channels. > > TL does not distribute packages which require nonfree files; > "ptex-fontmaps-macos" and "cjk-gs-integrate-macos" require > macOS-bundled fonts (Hiragino TTC format etc.), so they cannot go to TL > > Dick, would you mind adding these packages into MacTeX? > >> Mojca >> >> PS: greetings from Tokyo :) >> > > ;-) -- Hironobu > > > >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Hironobu Yamashita wrote: >>> Hi Mojca, >>> >>> A Japanese user of TeX Live/MacPorts reported following issue: >>> >>> * some Japanese macOS-specific packages >>> (e.g. "ptex-fontmaps-macos" and "cjk-gs-integrate-macos") >>> are not distributed with TeX Live; they are in TLContrib instead >>> http://contrib.texlive.info/ >>> >>> * tlmgr cannot be executed on macports, so they cannot run >>> $ tlmgr repository add >>> therefore, they cannot install packages with macports. >>> >>> I guess this issue can be solved by adding these TLContrib packages >>> into port, but I'm not sure who can sort this (as I don't use macports); >>> I'll be glad if you can point me in the right direction. >>> >>> Thank you in advance -- Hironobu >>> >>> ----- >>> Hironobu Yamashita (GitHub: @aminophen) >>> Japanese TeX Development Community https://texjp.org/

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[issue:203] Re: TLContrib packages into MacPorts?
by Richard Koch 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

> On Jul 5, 2018, at 2:41 AM, Hironobu Yamashita <h.y.acetaminophen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks for your comments. > > > > They are available at > https://github.com/texjporg/jfontmaps/releases/tag/20180328.0 > https://github.com/texjporg/cjk-gs-support/releases/tag/20180306.0 > >> Is there any reason why these packages are not also distributed with >> upstream TeX Live or at least with MacTeX? This is not an either-or >> question, it could be distributed via both different channels. > > TL does not distribute packages which require nonfree files; > "ptex-fontmaps-macos" and "cjk-gs-integrate-macos" require > macOS-bundled fonts (Hiragino TTC format etc.), so they cannot go to TL > > Dick, would you mind adding these packages into MacTeX? > The TeXLive in MacTeX is exactly the full TeXLive from TUG. Nothing is added and nothing is removed. I've enforced this condition for years. Adding the packages would mean violating this principle, which I am reluctant to do. As I understand it, the reason nonfree files aren't allowed in TeXLive is that TUG sells a DVD and nonfree files would complicate that task or make it impossible. To be honest, the DVD version of MacTeX doesn't include the MacTeX copy of TeX Live; instead users are asked to install it from the command line (to save space on the DVD). So the DVD is sort of a non-issue. But if I added the packages, the DVD version and the internet version would not be the same. Dick Koch PS: I just got back from San Francisco, where I heard The Ring and went to a symposium about it. At the symposium, I learned that the Gonzaga family in Italy during the Renaissance had the following motto; "Maybe yes. Maybe no."

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[issue:202] Re: TLContrib packages into MacPorts?
by Hironobu Yamashita 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Hi, Thanks for your comments. 2018-07-05 18:02 GMT+09:00 Mojca Miklavec <mojca(a)macports.org>: > Hi, > > A while ago we had some ptex-related stuff in MacPorts which was > completely unmaintained for years and we removed it after a while No problem I think, almost all of them are now included (and improved) inside TeX Live ;-) I think standalone port of "makejvf" can also be removed. > (there's still a package ptex-sfmacros, whatever that one does). > In order to get a package for MacPorts, either someone needs to > prepare a package and make a pull request, or someone needs to push > one of existing macports contributors. It might be easy enough to > create a package for one of us, I only need some URL with a tarball > that will ideally not change with time. (In principle git could also > work.) What would that URL be? They are available at https://github.com/texjporg/jfontmaps/releases/tag/20180328.0 https://github.com/texjporg/cjk-gs-support/releases/tag/20180306.0 > Is there any reason why these packages are not also distributed with > upstream TeX Live or at least with MacTeX? This is not an either-or > question, it could be distributed via both different channels. TL does not distribute packages which require nonfree files; "ptex-fontmaps-macos" and "cjk-gs-integrate-macos" require macOS-bundled fonts (Hiragino TTC format etc.), so they cannot go to TL Dick, would you mind adding these packages into MacTeX? > Mojca > > PS: greetings from Tokyo :) > ;-) -- Hironobu > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Hironobu Yamashita wrote: >> Hi Mojca, >> >> A Japanese user of TeX Live/MacPorts reported following issue: >> >> * some Japanese macOS-specific packages >> (e.g. "ptex-fontmaps-macos" and "cjk-gs-integrate-macos") >> are not distributed with TeX Live; they are in TLContrib instead >> http://contrib.texlive.info/ >> >> * tlmgr cannot be executed on macports, so they cannot run >> $ tlmgr repository add >> therefore, they cannot install packages with macports. >> >> I guess this issue can be solved by adding these TLContrib packages >> into port, but I'm not sure who can sort this (as I don't use macports); >> I'll be glad if you can point me in the right direction. >> >> Thank you in advance -- Hironobu >> >> ----- >> Hironobu Yamashita (GitHub: @aminophen) >> Japanese TeX Development Community https://texjp.org/

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[issue:201] Re: TLContrib packages into MacPorts?
by Mojca Miklavec 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Hi, A while ago we had some ptex-related stuff in MacPorts which was completely unmaintained for years and we removed it after a while (there's still a package ptex-sfmacros, whatever that one does). In order to get a package for MacPorts, either someone needs to prepare a package and make a pull request, or someone needs to push one of existing macports contributors. It might be easy enough to create a package for one of us, I only need some URL with a tarball that will ideally not change with time. (In principle git could also work.) What would that URL be? Is there any reason why these packages are not also distributed with upstream TeX Live or at least with MacTeX? This is not an either-or question, it could be distributed via both different channels. Mojca PS: greetings from Tokyo :) On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Hironobu Yamashita wrote: > Hi Mojca, > > A Japanese user of TeX Live/MacPorts reported following issue: > > * some Japanese macOS-specific packages > (e.g. "ptex-fontmaps-macos" and "cjk-gs-integrate-macos") > are not distributed with TeX Live; they are in TLContrib instead > http://contrib.texlive.info/ > > * tlmgr cannot be executed on macports, so they cannot run > $ tlmgr repository add > therefore, they cannot install packages with macports. > > I guess this issue can be solved by adding these TLContrib packages > into port, but I'm not sure who can sort this (as I don't use macports); > I'll be glad if you can point me in the right direction. > > Thank you in advance -- Hironobu > > ----- > Hironobu Yamashita (GitHub: @aminophen) > Japanese TeX Development Community https://texjp.org/

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[issue:200] TLContrib packages into MacPorts?
by Hironobu Yamashita 04 Jul '18

04 Jul '18

Hi Mojca, A Japanese user of TeX Live/MacPorts reported following issue: * some Japanese macOS-specific packages (e.g. "ptex-fontmaps-macos" and "cjk-gs-integrate-macos") are not distributed with TeX Live; they are in TLContrib instead http://contrib.texlive.info/ * tlmgr cannot be executed on macports, so they cannot run $ tlmgr repository add therefore, they cannot install packages with macports. I guess this issue can be solved by adding these TLContrib packages into port, but I'm not sure who can sort this (as I don't use macports); I'll be glad if you can point me in the right direction. Thank you in advance -- Hironobu ----- Hironobu Yamashita (GitHub: @aminophen) Japanese TeX Development Community https://texjp.org/

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